Abortion: No. Killing my child with prayer:Sure!

12 Jan

After reading a nice post by Sisyphus Fragment on whether parents who kill their children by withholding medical treatment for religious reasons should go to jail, I got thinking about the implications with regards to abortion.

If it is ok for parents to cite religious belief in mistreating their children, even when it leads to death, why is it wrong to have an abortion? (I’m assuming the people killing their children by withholding medical treatment are conservative and therefore against a woman’s right to be the master of her own body)

The way I see it, abortion is the lesser of two evils when compared to the religious method of killing one’s child. In an early abortion, the fetus is unable to feel pain until 8 weeks and is not self aware.

On the other hand, an already born child can feel pain fully, and is self-aware. They may not understand what is happening, or why mom and dad won’t call 9-1-1, but they can feel their body shutting down, and they can feel the pain.

So it’s not ok to abort an unwanted child (who will most likely grow up being abused and mistreated for being an unwanted economic burden on his/her parents, and then lead a life of crime) but it is ok to kill an already born child who is fully aware that you are killing them, all because you say an invisible man in the sky wants you to not give them life saving medicine?

4 Responses to “Abortion: No. Killing my child with prayer:Sure!”

  1. jonolan January 12, 2010 at 6:42 am #

    On the flip side, you obviously condone abortion but I assume you would decry the extermination of atheists.

    Why is it OK to murder innocent children but not OK to exterminate atheists?

  2. godlesspaladin January 12, 2010 at 8:23 am #

    I never said it was ok to murder innocent children. (A child and a mass of non-sentient tissue are not the same thing fyi) That’s actually what I am decrying in this post, parents who DO murder innocent children by refusing to give them desperately needed medical care.

    Secondly, atheists, just like christians, jews, pagans, or muslims, are sentient human beings and therefore not ok to murder them, just like it’s not ok to murder a child.

  3. Oddysey January 12, 2010 at 1:46 pm #

    Jonolan, here’s a semi-rhetorical question: What would you think of a policy that made blood donation mandatory, for everyone? And you could go to jail if you didn’t donate, without having a medical reason not to?

  4. jonolan January 12, 2010 at 7:16 pm #

    Good riposte, godlesspaladin!

    It is, however, a point where we differ in opinion. I’m not arrogant enough to decide when personhood starts – we theists are like that – and am quite uncomfortable with the idea of erring on the side of the unborn not being human.


    What is your point? I don’t see it.

    If you’re equating giving blood – or any act of life saving – with not killing a child, you’re making a spurious argument. Infanticide / Abortion is an active act, whereas not giving blood is a passive one.

    But, to your question in all of it flaws – I’m ambivalent with that idea – in the true sense of the word.

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