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10 Feb

The other day my girlfriend and I were driving down to the mall, passing “liberty” “university” when at a stop light a group of liberty students started angrily honking at me. They saw my atheist bumper sticker and gave me the finger. How christian of them. Who would Jesus flick off? I gave them the finger back as a knee-jerk reaction but instantly wished I had been more witty and given them the peace sign instead…

“Liberty” “university” is a sore on Lynchburg. Jerry Falwell, after being expelled from Lynchburg College for alcoholism, eventually established this christian extremist “school” and went about buying up as much of the town as he could. He also strong armed local businesses to conform to his will. A local movie theater was moved to be closer to LU in order so the students there could go see a movie and be back before their 11’oclock curfew.

Naming the “school” liberty” is some kind of Orwellian double speak joke. One look at “The liberty way” (their student hand book) shows that liberty has nothing to do with it. (I posted a link to another site that has the list, their website PDF is down at the time being) Here are some excerpts

1 Reprimand

Curfew violation (1 additional reprimand for each half-hour late until 2:00 a.m.)

4 Reprimands + Written Warning

Absence from required meeting

Disturbance/non-participation during Convocation

Dress/hair code violation: male or female

Horseplay (plus financial restitution)

Improper personal contact (anything beyond hand-holding)

Improper sign out

Missing Convocation

Music code violation

Outside residence hall after curfew

Unauthorized borrowing (plus financial restitution)

6 Reprimands + $35 Fine

Attendance at a dance [WTF?!?!]

Direct disobedience/disrespect

Gambling

Improper social behavior

Possession and/or use of tobacco

Visiting residence lobby or entryway of opposite sex on campus or allowing the same

12 Reprimands + $70 Fine

Attendance at, possession or viewing of, an “R,” “NC-17” or “X”-rated movie

Deception

Entering the space above ceiling tiles [happen often?]

Obscene, profane or abusive language or behavior

Out of residence hall overnight or substantial portion of the night without permission (after 2:00 a.m.)

Participation in an unauthorized petition or demonstration [1st Amendment rights? WTF.]

Possession and/or viewing of pornography

Students of the opposite sex visiting alone at an off-campus residence

Visiting the residence hallway of the opposite sex

18 Reprimands + $100 Fine

(regardless of previously paid fines) + 18 hours Disciplinary Community Service + 50% Scholarship Reduction

Association with those consuming alcohol

Failure to properly identify oneself

Racial harassment

Sexual harassment (i.e., unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors or other conduct or comments of a sexual nature)

Sexual misconduct and/or any state of undress

Visiting bedroom of the opposite sex on/off campus or allowing the same

30 Reprimands + $150 Fine

(regardless of previously paid fines) + 30 hours Disciplinary Community Service + possible Administrative Withdrawal and/or possible 100% Scholarship Reduction. NOTE: For each accumulation of six (6) or more reprimands after 30, an additional $150 fine will be assessed.

Abortion [wow….]

Failure of three (3) Christian/Community Services without reconciliation

Immorality [meaning what?]

Involvement with witchcraft, seances or other satanic or demonic activity [Hahahahaha! This is hilarious!]

Possession or consumption of alcoholic beverages

Spending the night with a person of the opposite sex

Two or more individuals of the opposite sex together in motel room

“Liberty” alright….wow….just wow. They’re really big on the no sex thing. The ironic twist is that a lot of parents send their poor kids to this jesus freak “school” to “pray the gay away” and the kids are locked up in dorms with all the same sex…..priceless.

As for the “university” part. The “school’s” biology department denies evolution. How the hell can you have biology without evolution? You can’t! Modern medicine and science are built upon the idea of evolution. The scary thing is I’ve heard they want to try and create a medical doctor program….A doctor that doesn’t believe your disease will evolve if you don’t take all your medication, and that if you die under his care you’ll go to a better place……wow.

The “school” also claims to have dinosaur bones that are 3,ooo years old….That’s a disgrace to science and education. You can see Dawkins go off when he hears about this here. The place is disgusting. Founded by the son of a bootlegger who shot his brother, Jerry Falwell is a horrendous bigot. He even went on to say that 9/11 was god’s will. The scary thing is Falwell told Legal Affairs magazine that the LU “school” of law is “training lawyers to infiltrate the profession to return the country to a Judeo-Christian model.”

The “school” also leaves a physical scare on the town of Lynchburg. They cut down a huge section of trees on a local hill to put up a tacky “LU” on the mountain top:

The sad thing is, the school gets their students to change their address to Lynchburg so they can vote in local elections. The influx of about 25,000 more votes gives the school a lot of power to shape elections in the small town. I’m not sure if they currently have control of city council through their own chosen alums, but if they do then the council and zoning powers become a rubber-stamp for this extremist group.

148 Responses to ““Liberty” “University” is neither…”

  1. God is a comedian... February 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm #

    Its funny to listen to you getting so upset about Jerry Falwell. This is a man that even many of us Christians think its a nut job. His comments at 9/11 are all the proof you need. As for Liberty U., its a Baptist school that still seem to subscribe to the legalistic view of Christianity with even Christ Himself said legalism was wrong.

  2. I'm god, you're god, we're all god February 11, 2009 at 10:36 am #

    Yay, another atheist in the Lynchburg area! (I just found your blog). Carry on!

  3. criscocorner February 11, 2009 at 2:38 pm #

    Jerry Farwell is not a good representative of Christanity. In my opinion, Jerry Farwell is gulity of legalism and therefore, should cast in the same lot of Pharisees.

  4. Driftingfocus February 13, 2009 at 11:04 am #

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  5. Violet February 14, 2009 at 2:49 pm #

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  6. samanthakrieger March 6, 2009 at 4:39 pm #

    First of all, I’m really sorry that you were treated like that on the road. In all honesty, I would question whether those kids in the car were true Christians. Yes I know they go to “Liberty University”- a Christian college. But that doesn’t mean anything. I went to Liberty and walked the same halls with people like that. I am a believer and I really hate that this has been your experience with Christianity. If you read the gospels, Jesus welcomed sinners (of which we all are- I am def. the worst!). He was not religious. He hated the pharisees because on the outside they looked good- did a lot of religious deeds- but on the inside they were (whitewashed tombs- full of deadness). The truth is that Liberty has a lot of pharisees and I probably have been one too. I won’t go into the legalism deal right now, but I want you to know as a blogger friend that I am grieved (representing a true follower of Christ), that this was your experience. My heart beats fast reading your post. I really hope that you’ll see there is nothing but love and forgiveness in Christ. Rule are meant to protect us but I heard it said once that rules without a relationship cause rebellion. Anyhow, thanks for reading this. And again I am sorry.

  7. MotherMary March 10, 2009 at 5:56 pm #

    God, Liberty is absolutely the worst school I’ve heard of. Mainly it’s so terrible b/c of all the rules. I mean, come on. College is for freedom and experimentation, not constant Jesus and no relationships with the opposite sex. Liberty=A brain consuming, thought terminating, fun sucking, idiotic human creating zombie of disgust!

  8. sage wild September 7, 2009 at 8:02 am #

    I am really struggling with christianity since starting to attend Liberty University. I have a bad taste in my mouth and will take my degree and RUN!!

    • Imani Hill May 9, 2014 at 4:18 pm #

      Maybe you should just leave the school altogether. F@@K the degree at that school, get it somewhere else.

  9. godlesspaladin September 7, 2009 at 1:13 pm #

    Sage, you’re not alone. I know another LU student who had the same problem as you. (He eventually became an Atheist, which isn’t a bad thing despite what the people there say) and now comes to the Lynchburg Area Secular Humanists club. “Liberty’s” brand of christianity also isn’t the only brand. They may be in the majority around LU, but there are plenty more christians that prefer to focus on the whole love an inclusion part of Jesus’ message. If you ever need any help, just know that there are plenty of good people around who would gladly lend a hand.

  10. sage wild March 28, 2010 at 5:48 pm #

    It only gets worse at Liberty University. I cannot wait to get out of there. I took a class mistakenly believing it would focus on the empowerment of women. It was COUN 687, Counseling Women. The class starts with Dr. Hinkley asking us to consider the opposite sex counseling each other. I was shocked. I thought I had heard it all, I was wrong. We were required to read a book from Nancy De moss. OMG!!! we are suppose to be quiet and gentle and stay home. We are to serve our husbands as sarah called her husband “master”. I was stunned. I felt I was in a muslim class. I will refrain from further comment; it could get ugly.

    • godlesspaladin March 28, 2010 at 6:21 pm #

      Oh wow Sage, that’s fascinating! What were the test like? Name 50 ways to be a good house wife?

  11. 4ceiba January 12, 2012 at 10:04 pm #

    Oh , the things I could add to this.
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    and the fact that there “mall cops aka Campus police” have jurisdiction OFF the campus.
    Try being pulled over and harassed by one of the cops for your BUMBER stickers.
    He gave me a TICKET for having a headlight out! and called me all kinds of unrepeatable names because I had a bumper sticker that said ” Lord Rahl for president” ( he thought Rahl was a liberal)

  12. dietolivephil1 October 2, 2012 at 11:20 pm #

    Dear sir,

    I am currently a liberty student and know for fact that Jerry Falwell didn’t get expelled from Lynchburg college… he didn’t even go there. He went to a baptist bible college in Missouri. Also I do apologize on behalf of the Liberty students who made crude gestures at you! I hope that you realize that not every one a liberty is a born again christian. It is my hearts plea that you would forgive them and do not base your opinions of Liberty just on your short experience and reading of the Liberty way! I suggest that you read “unlikely disciple” which is written from a secular viewpoint on Liberty. I pray that you open your eyes to the world around you and realize that You were made for something greater than you could ever imagine.

    God loves you and I do too!

    • godlesspaladin October 3, 2012 at 8:15 pm #

      If you don’t believe me that he went there, find Dr. Clifton Potter and e-mail him (Here, I’ll make it easy: potter.c@lynchburg.edu ). He’s a history professor at LC and had Falwell in his study block. Falwell’s records of his attendance were later expunged for political reasons, hence why you can’t find a record of his attending and being expelled.

  13. grandgalacticinquisitor January 19, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

    Hell im just tired of seeing that damn LU symbol on top of that mountain everywhere i look around town its like an unwanted bat symbol

  14. C Simmonds April 14, 2013 at 11:52 am #

    You must know that not everyone who goes to Liberty is a Christian and even if those you encountered would claim to be a Christian, it does not make them perfect. Like you, perhaps they too regretted the way they responded. I would venture to say that the majority of the 25,000 students at Liberty are “good” citizens and people. I suspect their rates of crime and violence relative to their population are low.
    The rules at Liberty though perhaps extremely strict are not abhorrent. What harm is there is learning to sacrifice personal wants, denying and disciplining oneself and learning to respect and submit to authority? These are amazing character developments that make for great friends, spouses, and co-workers.
    As for the theory of evolution, it is just that a theory. Many of our founding, brilliant, scientists whose theories we still recognize and value today were Creationists. As for the theory of Darwinian evolution, it is no longer accepted in any scientific circles as being credible. The issue really is not about evolution but rather the origin of life. To say that someone who is a gifted doctor cannot be capable and credible if they believe that God is the creator of life is ludicrous, preposterous, narrow minded and frankly uninformed.

    • Mara June 12, 2013 at 5:11 pm #

      I went to LU- was forced by my parents because I was a bad kid who asked too many science questions and couldn’t just have “faith”. I can’t say that I am or am not a Christian- there are lots of things we just don’t know. I have an open mind and am fascinated by the universe. After getting my (worthless) degree in business at LU, I went to another university and received a degree in Chemistry and now teach it. I will say from a scientific point of view, Liberty is scared of information. We know from history that when one group limits another groups access to information, it is because there is fear and there is a struggle for control. I question LU’s committment to academia and because of that, do not endorse it as a good university. Certainly, if you want to study religion or english or something along those lines, your learning may not be compromised, but if you would like to study science, history, math, (and PLEASE, as the origional post said something about a medical school— please don’t go here for that) then avoid this school. You will not be competent along side your professional peers in these subjects as Liberty has a tendency to put their own spin on things.
      For those of you having bad experiences, my advice is to not be bitter. You are of an adult age, make your decision, and either leave the school or be positive. If someone told me that at age 19 I could have saved 4 years of my life… But I guess we are made up of our experiences. Good luck to all and to everyone- have an open mind to every idea. The truth is not afraid of information.

  15. Carl December 14, 2013 at 7:33 pm #

    This is nothing..if you really have a problem with this, you should look at Bob Jones University.

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  17. Josh February 9, 2014 at 2:45 am #

    As bad as you have tried to make it out to be it is still better than going to a very secular state school where it is against the rules not to have sex, drink, or parties. There are probably a lot of bullies and suicides like in high school. I hate when people try to bash on the one school that promotes freedom to worship God without being scrutinized. A degree is still a degree whether I get it from Liberty, Harvard, or poop university. I don’t know about y’all but God is all I have. I lost my family, my friends, and my home because stuff happens. Nobody is gonna care at a big state school. I would be just a number on the college assembly line. At least at LU I would be prayed for daily. I am sorry that your experience was negative but this school is all I have because I’m on my own. Remember, everybody in this country has the freedom to choose. Nobody is forced to go anywhere.

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