The selfishness of religion

31 Jan

It’s been a while since I last posted since classes just started up a little bit ago. One of the classes I’m taking is a comparative religion’s class. The class covers christianity, islam, and judaism. What transpired yesterday in the class really infuriated me.

We were talking about how people always try to rationalize bad events, like tsunami’s, floods, terrorist attacks, etc… One guy raised his hand and stated how god doesn’t do these things for no reason, and something good always comes of it. The problem with this point of view is that it ignores the people who suffered and perished. It’s easy to say something good will come of it if you’re alive or it didn’t directly affect you. But what about everyone else who died? Obviously nothing good was going to come to them, they’re dead.

The guy then pointed out that god does this to teach us a lesson. A lesson?!?! That still doesn’t address the problem of what about all those who died to teach you a lesson? I just feel it’s extremely selfish. I asked him if this included the holocaust, to which he said “yes.”

So you mean to tell me that god allowed SIX MILLION people to be SLAUGHTERED just to teach you a lesson!?!?! Omfg. He said “yes” you this too. Then, upon seeing my anger and shock, he chastised me for “valuing human life too much.” I value human life too much?!?!? Here I’m about to throw up. This is just really fucking sick. I don’t know about him, but here in America we care about human life. Whatever happened to leave no man/woman behind?

I just think it really says something about the nature of religion when you don’t value human life and have no qualms about millions of people being systematically butchered all so you personally can learn a lesson. (Oh, and then he went on to deny that genocide still goes on today….what a fucktard.)

4 Responses to “The selfishness of religion”

  1. Robaigh January 31, 2009 at 2:25 pm #

    Uffda! Your classmate demonstrated some really bad (and probably not seriously contemplated) theology. I can’t speak from much first-hand experience, but I believe his attitude is symptomatic of contemporary North American religiosity, but not of religiosity across the globe or across time. (Not claiming that horrible, unthinkable, unjustifiable things have not been perpetrated in the name of religion here. I’m just saying that the particular attitude of your classmate’s is more a problem in our context than in others.)

    I’ll agree with him this far: good things can arise from horrible events, but it is a huge mistake to think that these things happen somehow for our benefit. It’s more about what you do with the crappy situation you’re handed – if that makes sense.

    Anyway, sorry to butt in here, but I hear what you’re saying.

  2. tishrei January 31, 2009 at 3:18 pm #

    I am somewhat bewildered that someone would tell you that the purpose of bad events was to teach a lesson. I am equally bewildered that a Christian would say that the purpose of the holocaust was to teach a lesson. I can guarantee you that there is no scriputure to support those events as a means that God uses to teach a lesson.

    What he was proably refering to is Romans 8:28 where scripture states that “And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.” Basically, it is taking a bad situation and using the bad situation for good. In fact, people do that all the time, something really bad happens, a tragedy, and because of that tragedy, they are inspired to do something good. Now, this is not to say that God is ‘inspired’ but He uses situations “who love God all things work together for good…”

  3. Bob November 29, 2009 at 4:52 pm #

    This infuriates me too. i find it hard to believe that someone would be self centered enough to believe that this many people would be killed to teach a lesson. As for valuing human life, “too much” WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    […] and suffering is supposed to teach us a lesson. This is an insulting and condescending answer that I have encountered before. So all those people who died painful and gruesome deaths in history did so to teach you a lesson? […]

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